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Let’s make some noise for the bottoms at home! (its me, the base in the house.) Bottom society has become very something™ on line recently! But what can it actually mean becoming a bottom? Exactly why has got the tradition made the decision bottoming is just getting scared to inquire about for just what you desire? And exactly how does someone go-about choosing when they like bottoming?!

Along with these concerns rattling around all of our heads, demanding responses, Drew and I also understood there seemed to be just one individual we could choose for a rounded, enthusiastic dialogue about bottoming: The Gay Chingy AKA Chingy Nea, AKA the base Supreme. Chingy is one of the greatest men and women I’m sure composing and tweeting these days, so when a bottom myself personally, I am recognized to contact the woman my chief. Chingy allows us to tease away just what it way to end up being a bottom, exactly why she hates “smol bean” bottom part tradition, your body as gap, and your body as

entire

. It’s a really breathtaking talk, if I perform say so my self! Please realize that i know that we say “gorgeous” about three thousand times this occurrence, I am also getting assistance for my situation. (the disorder is actually talking like 57 year old white homosexual man.)

And! Recently’s video game entails me speculating in the event that complicated plots Drew describes are part of a motion picture or a dream she had circa 2006. It is hard!


PROGRAM NOTES

+ Study Chingy’s
Bottom Manifesto
, follow her
on Twitter
and
IG
!

+we have found a list of the films that received found in the woman video game:


  • The Seventh Seal

    (1937)

  • Bringing-up Child

    (1938)


  • Pierrot ce Fou


    (1965)

  • Dark Swan

    (2010)

+Watch Anna Faris perform some greatest work of her career in

Smiley Face!


+Let

Shohreh Aghdashloo talk one to rest while clothed as Chrisjen


Avasarala


from

The Expanse

because you need that.


+Cindy Wilson from the B52s is very hot and honestly? “Love Shack” still whips!


+
Robert Mitchum
, stone cold fox.



EPISODE


Chingy

: i have merely been bottoming since I was, I don’t know, dating back to i will keep in mind.


Drew

: Cue Rags to wealth from

Goodfellas.


Chingy

: dating back to i could remember, i desired to be a base, no, but method of

[intro plays]


Drew

: Hi, I Am Drew.


Christina

: I Am Christina.


Drew

: Thanks for visiting

Hold off, So Is This a romantic date

?


Christina

:

Wait, Is This a Date?

is an Autostraddle podcast focused on one, the sole the largest concern of our instances: Wait, So is this a Date?


Drew

: And, wow, i must say i merely froze up indeed there.


Christina

: I was like, oh shit, I became meant to state some thing! [laughs]


Drew

: i am truly quick on banter, my brain only… the fact is that I found myself reading over my personal video game records, which we aren’t at however because we still need to present ourselves. So, I’m going to try to remain focused on one task at a time.


Christina

: Focus up!


Drew

: My name is Drew Gregory, i will be an author for Autostraddle, and a filmmaker, and a trans girl.


Christina

: Hi, my name is Christina Tucker, forgot my finally title for a hot moment, no big issue. I am in addition an author at Autostraddle and other places on the internet, a podcaster, a gay black colored girl. Which is sorts of it, dog, which is me personally.


Drew

: i enjoy it. Okay, today we-


Christina

: Now the video game.


Drew

: Can we play the online game?


Christina

: Can we get right to the game? I can inform you’re thrilled, I could show’re merely vibrating.


Drew

: therefore, i have been maintaining an aspiration record since 2007, and also the premise of the game is actually-


Christina

: I did not know this about yourself!


Drew

: Yes, it is not as updated today, we always record all my personal ambitions and today it really is only when anything actually sticks. But, the assumption within this online game is, am I describing the storyline of an aspiration I had while I was a teenager, or am I explaining the storyline of a motion picture that I appreciated whenever I was a teenager?


Christina

: Oh son, fine.


Drew

: therefore, the way in which it is going to go is we’ll always describe it as a dream as well as in the initial person. Therefore, if it had been

Superstar Wars,

I would be like, I’m in area and I’m battling as part of a rebellion, and there’s a wicked  guy that is putting on a black robot suit and it works out he’s my father. Which is the way I’ll explain it, the manner by which we explain aspirations, but often it will be an aspiration, sometimes it’ll end up being from a motion picture. Ready?


Christina

: I’m some thing, I am not sure that i am prepared, but let’s stone. Let us see just what I can carry out here.


Drew

: Okay, i am on a coastline and that I see this weird guy wearing black. He tells me which he’s dying and we can take advantage of a game to determine easily stay or if perhaps the guy requires me. I find a way to avoid, but every where I-go, folks are sick and I feel just like dying continues to be after me.The only pleased component occurs when I satisfy a theater troupe and they’re a lot of enjoyment.


Christina

: This,i believe, is actually an aspiration.


Drew

: this could be Ingmar Bergman’s

The Seventh Seal

from 1957.


Christina

: it is going to be a real gotcha on CT’s traditional movie expertise, because the thing I know that Drew, in your adolescence, wasn’t undertaking was enjoying motion pictures that I’m going to know. Now, i am type of hoping that I have seen none of them. I do believe which will be more fun in my situation.


Drew

: the 2nd one, i am meeting with my children and a few Italian United states gangsters. One of the gangsters needs that we provide over some cash, but my loved ones and that I managed to avoid. We escape through all of this arctic surface, traveling I meet an actress and interact with this lady. We end in a suburb. In my opinion we’re going to begin a fresh life together until she takes me to a big mansion, and I recognize it belongs to the gangster. It absolutely was all a trap, the gangster arrives so there’s a confrontation. We kill him, the fantasy closes because of the celebrity performing a musical number.


Christina

: Is this a movie?


Drew

: this could be an aspiration I got in 2008.


Christina

: Okay, wow. Boy, yeah, i assume i need to keep in mind that its 2000, its old school Drew head. That’s what i need to keep in mind.


Drew

: additionally like, what films was actually we seeing at the time and just how a lot performed that impact my personal goals?


Christina

: Well, yeah, clearly quite a bit!


Drew

: A fun truth is that I was actually, I didn’t include this simply because I thought this will have out, nevertheless the gangster ended up being Tony Soprano because I happened to be enjoying

The Sopranos

in 2008. So, which is an enjoyable little reality. Okay, next one, You will find a significant task, but this hot girl appears and starts annoying me personally. I wish to be with her, but I additionally really should get could work accomplished, so I inform this lady to depart. She keeps soon after myself. Out of the blue, a leopard appears in my room and I need to spend rest of the dream attempting to get the leopard. I am nonetheless truly nervous, We never ever finish could work, but at the very least your ex is actually hot.


Christina

: it has is an aspiration you have, it’s to be a Drew dream.


Drew

: This Really Is Howard Hawks’

Bringing Up Baby

from 1938.


Christina

: No, but that’s a dream you have, this is the many Drew dream I’ve heard. Today at this time, I’m merely probably going to be rewriting film history, to match my whims.


Drew

: Great, I adore that. Okay, I’m at a celebration and I also do not really like anyone there. Ultimately, we see this lady, I once had a crush on and we choose leave with each other. We head to the woman household, but they are chased off from this group of men who are attempting to kill the lady. We find yourself on a beach and it may seem like we are going to be ok up until the guys come across all of us. She ultimately ends up becoming into this various other guy, therefore I just take cartoonish dynamite and determine to blow me up


Christina

: Movie.


Drew

: this is certainly! This is exactly Jean Luc Goddard’s

Pierrot ce Fou

, from 1965.


Christina

: haven’t seen, but that seems like a ding dang motion picture to me.


Drew

: Great, i enjoy it. There is a narration explaining a strange watercraft like structure which is impractical to wreck. I am going on a retreat around the framework, the refuge is kind of movie theater related, kind of spiritual. I’ve a crush about lady from the escape, but she’s got a boyfriend. Amid the activities and traditions, there are plenty of drama between me personally this lady and her sweetheart, it comes to an end with me alone. There have been a sequence revealing the boat design is actually impractical to ruin because a mechanical arm fixes it in night.


Christina

: which can be anything in numerous means, I’m going to state movie once again, have you thought to?


Drew

: it’s an aspiration from 2011, that did have narration from another person, you are sure that, it occurs!


Christina

: This is really great promo to possess an aspiration log, because I believe enjoy it would-be fun if I could keep in mind my dreams this way.


Drew

: Nobody likes once you describe the aspirations in their mind. I do though, and I’m the friend, when you want to write-down the hopes and dreams and let me know, i might love to hear about them.


Christina

: Okay, which is great to hear.


Drew

: I have two more.


Christina

: Okay.


Drew

: i am in a beautiful yard with a small grouping of friends, most of us seem to be getting out of bed from becoming drugged. We’re obligated to bathe in an acid that drains pigment therefore we be golden-haired and blue-eyed. The folks responsible start teaching you to kill, it turns out this one has been run by a crazy dictator, we resist acquiring completely brainwashed. Absolutely this woman here You will find a crush on and I persuade this lady to escape with me, while escaping I get recorded and killed, nevertheless the girl will get out. Whenever she makes the jail, she understands we’re in a forest so there’s no place to visit.


Christina

: Movie.


Drew

: that could be the most important fantasy in my dream journal from, I said, “2007.” Is in reality 2006.


Christina

: Wow.


Drew

: I always believed it was fascinating that we die in dream, nevertheless other person goes on on. The good news is, there’s some weird sex stuff happening there, and I also’m likely to need certainly to contemplate this one for a while.


Christina

: surely accomplish that.


Drew

: Okay, You will find yet another.


Christina

: Okay.


Drew

: i am given the possible opportunity to end up being a ballerina, my personal mommy insists I won’t be able to do it. There’s this different woman from inside the show who In my opinion is actually hot, but I’m stressed she is going to change me. I’m striving in rehearsal, but end upwards making using lady, we attach. This really is hot, but I believe my self dropping control, we get back to the party tv series. My body system seems to be morphing into something else entirely, i am stressed that i will screw up.


Christina

: this can be a motion picture.


Drew

: Thus,

Black Swan

.


Christina

: Yes, that’s

Ebony Swan

, truly.


Drew

: Maybe you’ve observed

Black Swan

? That was one I was thinking you have viewed.


Christina

: I’ve come across

Black Swan

, I… Fun reality, we went on a date with a person to see

Dark Swan

.


Drew

: Wow.


Christina

: merely straight circumstances used to do.


Drew

: that which was that like?


Christina

: crazy, it absolutely was weird.


Drew

: Do you such as the flick? Did he like the movie?


Christina

: i do believe, I’d already viewed it, i do believe I found myself love, “let us go notice it once more.” I believe, I happened to be extremely pro

Ebony Swan,

as well as directly heterosexual factors, definitely.


Drew

: Sure, okay.


Christina

: And, he was like, “That was unusual.” And I was want, “Oh well, we aren’t gonna always day.”


Drew

: Wow, well I wish him the number one, I’m hoping he is somewhere doing well. Thank-you for playing the game beside me.


Christina

: Wow, I’m so happy we went two for nonetheless numerous we performed thereon.


Drew

: maybe not awful.


Christina

: Not terrible.


Drew

: You did better than Elise performed once I wished to find out if this is an operating video game that may work, and she ended up being my personal guinea-pig. Therefore, she merely got one correct.


Christina

: Fair enough.


Drew

: Should we proceed to our very own main subject associated with few days?


Christina

: Let’s enter into it, let’s understand this special visitor in.


Drew

: Well, i do want to first say that all of our main topic of the week is bottoming, therefore we could only have one extremely unique visitor.


Christina

: its only 1 individual.


Drew

: are you able to kindly introduce yourself?


Chingy

: Hi, i am Chingy Nea, also referred to as The Gay Chingy. I will be an author, Filmmaker, and gasian fabric dyke muppet. I will be additionally America’s first bottom.


Christina

: Yes, i believe when we had been talking about subject areas therefore we’re like, “we’re able to discuss bottoming and there’s practically singular person we can easily have in the pod to take action, there’s only 1 one who is quite literally the Supreme.”


Chingy

: many thanks for acknowledging, it feels good to have your wonder recognized, thank you


Christina

: Yes, therefore’ve completed great work, and right here the audience is knowing it.


Drew

: I would like to understand once you feel just like you became America’s best base. Whenever had been that a word and a label and an identity you actually conducted onto?


Chingy

: Well, thus I typically only state, “i am The Bottom Supreme.” Because, which cares about The usa?


Drew

: Positive.


Christina

: Fair enough.


Chingy

: Yeah, In my opinion that i usually really was effective in bottoming, but then in 2017 or something, we visited a play celebration which was simply for fem top sadists defeating me personally up for six to seven several hours straight, and it also was just me, and I also ended up being like, “Oh, I’m the number one that’s ever been.” After which, i do believe following that, i recently kept escalating and being, wow, i am therefore fun to look at. Wow, i am very engaging as a bottom, this is exactly wow, everybody who gets to top myself is so lucky. And, it moved following that, i do believe, right after which we typed an article known as I’m A Much Better Bottom Than You. Here’s Exactly Why. It was sort of a manifesto, it had been a bottom manifesto.


Christina

: certainly, can confirm.


Chingy

: And, a lot of people have actually said, “It’s altered the way they take a look at intercourse.” And, i prefer that many. This is the one post back at my web site that I’ve authored here. I created at

Vice

,

Teen Style

,

Vulture

—

Autostraddle

was the first place I penned, in fact. But yeah, that’s the one web log on my site, if you wish to find out about it.


Christina

: i enjoy a powerful brand name, i really like once you understand a brand name, and that I think’s really attractive, only, brand name management of your personal bottomy your self. I believe, that’s really stunning to see.


Chingy

: thanks, i obtained my personal very first writing chance at

Autostraddle

because I found myself authoring being a base, and being poly, being truly strong into becoming a leather dyke. And because then, i have started initially to write about a number of other items, but getting bottom great only variety of is the one through line of it-all.


Christina

: Yes.


Drew

: I also feel just like you are a very effective base and in the way which you share, and mention, and I assume knowledge bottoming that you are really active. While, In my opinion there’s a lot of the queer society, possibly, particularly the lesbian community, that possibly thinks of bottoming as… I’m not sure-


Chingy:

Passivity

.


Christina

: Mm-hmm

(Affirmative)

.


Drew

: Yeah.


Chingy

: Yeah, I usually claim that there’s a lot less soles than people believe tend to be bottoms. I think there is a significant difference between getting a bottom and merely being unsure of or seeking what you would like. In my opinion those are a couple of completely various things that individuals conflate.


Christina

: I would personally need to agree, In addition think the way that you explore bottoming is, i am talking about, let us just say it, a whole lot significantly less irritating than the means more and more people speak about getting a bottom or identify with bottom part tradition. Because, i actually do believe just what many people are saying explicitly or non explicitly merely, i’m sluggish and do not care and attention to complete any type of action, activity, et-cetera, I would like situations completed to me. And, if I need look for that call at in any manner, that affects my feelings. And, you happen to be so good and effective at being, they are the items that i’d like, bring these to me personally and I will rock and roll your globe. That will be gorgeous in my opinion.


Chingy

: Thanks a lot, after all, that’s what you need to do getting good at simply something, you must place yourself out there and try and make mistakes and get hurt a little bit, and, I’m not sure, study on it.


Christina

: i do believe which is a great information, honestly.


Chingy

: I’ve simply already been bottoming since I had been, I’m not sure, as far back as I’m able to recall. [laughs]


Drew

: Cue “Rags to Riches” from

Goodfellas

.


Chingy

: Yeah, as far back as I can bear in mind, i usually planned to end up being a bottom. No, but style of, once I had been 13 or 14, I found myself already evaluating SADO MASO website for lesbian BDSM web pages. Therefore, I found myselfn’t under any delusions with what I was pertaining to, I found myself having girls I dated in twelfth grade choke me aside, I realized the things I desired. And thus, that standard of consciousness has just given me quite a while to know what I want and learn how to get it.


Christina

: Beautiful, Drew, provide myself how you feel on bottoming.


Drew

: Well, i am actually really excited to share with you this simply because i’m like in 2019 {when I|as I|while

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